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		<title>You&#8217;ve been rejected from all consulting jobs. What&#8217;s next?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s an important question &#8211; and never more so than in today&#8217;s market. What&#8217;s next &#8211; when your resume doesn&#8217;t receive an interview; your first round doesn&#8217;t lead to a call-back; your final round receives a polite rejection? In this post, I&#8217;ll highlight the key steps to take when this happens. Not a fun post [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><img src="http://www.managementconsulted.com/images/sad_bear.jpg" alt="" align="right" />It&#8217;s an important question &#8211; and <strong>never more so</strong> than in today&#8217;s market. What&#8217;s next &#8211; when your resume doesn&#8217;t receive an interview; your first round doesn&#8217;t lead to a call-back; your final round receives a polite rejection?</p>
<p>In this post, I&#8217;ll highlight the key steps to take when this happens. <strong>Not a fun post</strong> &#8211; but a necessary one.</p>
<p class="alert">The advice applies equally to industries like <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/question-of-the-day-management-consulting-versus-investment-banking/">investment banking</a></p>
<h3>1. Follow-up the rejection and ask for feedback</h3>
<p>This is priority <em>numero uno</em>. You&#8217;ll typically receive a rejection call after the interview. If the caller is one of your interviewers, politely ask him/her for feedback on your performance. Don&#8217;t come across as bitter, upset, or <strong>anyway emotional</strong> &#8211; simply interested in receiving feedback for future improvement. Example questions to ask are:</p>
<ul>
<li>&#8220;Mark &#8211; thanks for the call. Can I get your honest assessment of where I could&#8217;ve done better?&#8221;</li>
<li>&#8220;Janice &#8211; I appreciate the response. It felt to me like I didn&#8217;t perform well in summarizing the cases. Were there other areas that were weaknesses?&#8221;</li>
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<p>If the caller is not one of your interviewers &#8211; <strong>send an email</strong> (<em>another time when business cards come in handy!</em>) to schedule a quick call for post-interview feedback. <strong>8 times out of 10</strong>, they&#8217;ll agree. The other 2 times, they&#8217;ll most likely respond directly to the email with some feedback. Here&#8217;s how you should phrase that email:</p>
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<blockquote><p>Hi Yoda, I appreciated the opportunity to interview with you last Thursday. Unfortunately, Danielle at HR just called to inform me that I won&#8217;t be receiving an offer. Could I give you a ring to get some post-interview feedback? It would help me in future interviews and to understand how I can improve through this process. Feel free to call me anytime (123-456-7890) or leave a number. Sincerely, George</p></blockquote>
<p>Short and to the point.</p>
<p>Once you&#8217;ve received feedback, <strong>take it to heart</strong>! Practice will only help for future interviews or next year&#8217;s recruiting cycle.</p>
<p class="alert">If you don&#8217;t make it past the resume stage, don&#8217;t ask. It&#8217;s rare that they&#8217;ll give comments, and if they do it&#8217;ll be very generic. Here are some possible criteria for <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/19/top-10-resume-tips-for-management-consulting-resumes/">resume rejections</a></p>
<h3>2. Focus on upcoming interviews</h3>
<p>If this isn&#8217;t your last interview, prepare doubly hard for the next one. <strong>No surprise here</strong>. Internalize feedback about your shortcomings (&#8220;you were unstructured in your approach to the case&#8230;you had an insufficient understanding of the underlying business drivers&#8230;we didn&#8217;t feel that you were a good fit for our company culture&#8221;). One of the most common mistakes people make is to <strong>practice alone</strong>. Do it with another person &#8211; it&#8217;s <strong>5x more valuable</strong>. Ask your family as a last resort.</p>
<h3>3. Re-evaluate and broaden your pipeline</h3>
<p><a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2009/02/02/life-as-a-consultant-an-interview-with-steve-shu-of-nortel-business-consulting/">Steve Shu</a> is on the mark here when he suggests <strong>&#8220;casting a wide net&#8221;</strong>. Applicants suffer from tunnel vision &#8211; the whole <strong>&#8220;Bain or Bust mentality&#8221;</strong>.</p>
<p class="alert">I&#8217;ll say it here: getting an offer to any of the top 50 management consulting firms is a major accomplishment</p>
<p>Apply to whatever is available and take interviews even if you <strong>wouldn&#8217;t accept the offer</strong>. Practice is key and options are valuable.</p>
<p>There simply isn&#8217;t a consulting firms database comparable to what exists in investment banking. I&#8217;m in the midst of building one; until then &#8211; Vault has a good starting point <a href="http://www.vault.com/hubs/channelmain.jsp?chm_page=5&amp;v=1&amp;ch_id=252">here</a>.</p>
<p>As discussed previously, <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2009/01/11/how-to-break-into-any-consulting-firm-even-if-they-dont-recruit-at-your-school/">online consulting applications</a> should be a last resort. <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/28/the-right-way-to-network-and-gather-information-at-management-consulting-information-sessionsmixerscompany-presentations/">Networking</a> will be a key differentiator.</p>
<h3>4. Explore alternatives such as grad school, finance, and entrepreneurship</h3>
<p>Ultimately, you may still be rejected from the industry. <strong>But the game&#8217;s just started</strong>!</p>
<p>There are plenty of other options &#8211; ones you <strong>should&#8217;ve considered</strong> from day 1 anyway. If your heart is still set on management and strategy consulting, the best thing you can do is recruit for jobs with the best combination of <strong>brand recognition and skill-development</strong>. Suggested areas include <strong>finance</strong> (eg, investment banking and sales &amp; trading) and the <strong>corporate track</strong> (eg, corporate management and product management). Not a particularly innovative list &#8211; but you get my point.</p>
<p><strong>Consider grad school</strong>. Particularly if your undergraduate institution is not a &#8220;target school&#8221; &#8211; a top tier grad school can be a <strong>solid reset button</strong>. Masters programs are shorter and less selective than other alternatives. Important disclaimer &#8211; don&#8217;t get a masters degree <strong>just for recruiting purposes</strong>.</p>
<p>Finally, there&#8217;s entrepreneurship. I&#8217;m <strong>clearly a big fan</strong>, but startups won&#8217;t allow you to break back into consulting unless you consider post-graduate education. There&#8217;s no clear network and no channel into management consulting. It is a viable path, however, to venture capital.</p>
<h3>5. Network, network, network</h3>
<p><strong>Never stop networking</strong>. It makes a difference, particularly in tough economic times when there are 10 equally qualified candidates for 2 positions. <strong>It comes down to who you know and how well</strong>. If you&#8217;re in school, network at information sessions, social mixers, business conferences. If you&#8217;re out of school, network through school alumni, colleagues past and present, family and friends. Online media (in particular, <strong>blogging and forum discussions</strong>) can be another great way to meet people with overlapping interests.</p>
<h3>6. Prepare for next year</h3>
<p>This particularly applies to <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/29/overview-of-the-management-consulting-summer-internship-from-recruiting-to-guaranteeing-a-return-offer/">summer internship</a> applicants. Driving factors for resume rejection include low GPA, lack of leadership experiences and initiative taking, and lack of strong work experience. Work on them however you can. <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/18/top-10-interview-tips-for-management-consulting-interviews/">Interview rejection</a> can include factors above, plus lack of preparation.</p>
<h3>7. Finally, continue kicking butt in your current role</h3>
<p>Don&#8217;t slack off. Many complaints that people have about their current jobs <strong>are fixable</strong> &#8211; insufficient responsibility, lack of challenging work, no upward movement. The solution to these topics belongs on another blog, but my advice is to <strong>take initiative</strong> wherever possible. This applies for current students as well. Your track record of promotions, driving impact, skills learned &#8211; <strong>will be critical</strong> when you try to <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/overview-of-the-management-consulting-recruiting-process-from-information-sessions-to-interviews-to-negotiating-the-offer/">land consulting jobs</a>!</p>
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		<title>Overview of the management consulting summer internship &#8211; from recruiting to guaranteeing a return offer</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 02:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Summer internships in management consulting are tough to find because there are so few. Some companies have just begun to expand their internship programs (eg, McKinsey) and some don&#8217;t hire summer undergraduate interns (eg, smaller boutiques). However, landing one is incredibly valuable &#8211; you get a trial period to determine whether its the right career [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><img src="http://www.managementconsulted.com/images/intern.jpg" align="left" alt="Overview of the management consulting summer internship recruiting process">Summer internships in management consulting are tough to find because there are so few. Some companies have just begun to expand their internship programs (eg, McKinsey) and some don&#8217;t hire summer undergraduate interns (eg, <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/12/recruiting-decisions-what-is-the-difference-between-global-management-consulting-firms-and-boutique-consulting-firms/">smaller boutiques</a>). However, <strong>landing one is incredibly valuable</strong> &#8211; you get a trial period to determine whether its the <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/11/management-consulting-and-the-consulting-industry-101/">right career path for you</a>, and it sets you ahead of the pack for fulltime recruiting (assuming you either didn&#8217;t receive an offer to return or wanted to test the field).</p>
<h3><strong>The recruiting process</strong></h3>
<p>Similar to the <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/24/overview-of-the-management-consulting-recruiting-process-from-information-sessions-to-interviews-to-negotiating-the-offer/">fulltime process</a>. Summer recruiting typically begins in January/February at college campuses for undergraduate and MBA. Expect a standard succession of <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/28/the-right-way-to-network-and-gather-information-at-management-consulting-information-sessionsmixerscompany-presentations/">information sessions/mixers/company presentations</a>, then <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/19/top-10-resume-tips-for-management-consulting-resumes/">resume</a> and cover letter screens, then <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/18/top-10-interview-tips-for-management-consulting-interviews/">multiple rounds of interviews</a> focused on fit/personality and case studies.</p>
<p class="alert">The process may be less rigorous than fulltime (eg, one fewer interview round, less challenging case studies) but the competition is equally tough</p>
<h3><strong>What if consulting firms don&#8217;t recruit for summer interns at your school</strong></h3>
<p>I plan to write a full post on this later as its a common concern. You have 3 options:</p>
<ul>
<li>Find contacts at target firms through your school&#8217;s alumni database. Get in touch with them to learn more about their firm and express interest in working there
<li>Find contacts at target firms through your school&#8217;s career center/career development office. This is typically alumni-based as well, but the career officers may have additional resources (eg, headhunter/recruiter databases)
<li>Submit resumes and cover letters through each company&#8217;s online application process &#8211; not all firms have these. Big ones like McKinsey and Accenture definitely well, but you may need to get creative with smaller ones like Katzenbach and LEK
</ul>
<p class="alert">In this situation, your best bet is to <strong>network, network, network</strong>. Friends, family, university alumni, try to build connections to your target firms and dialogue with those people. That&#8217;s the best chance you&#8217;ll have of recruiters and HR taking a serious look at your resume</p>
<p><em>Further reading:</em> <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2009/01/11/how-to-break-into-any-consulting-firm-even-if-they-dont-recruit-at-your-school/">What if consulting firms don&#8217;t recruit at your school</a></p>
<h3><strong>The goal of summer internships</strong></h3>
<p>To receive a fulltime offer! Everything you do over the summer should be geared towards helping you reach this goal. In the process, you&#8217;ll learn plenty about the job itself and even if you decide management consulting is not for you, <strong>options never hurt</strong>.</p>
<h3><strong>The standard summer internship structure</strong></h3>
<p>You&#8217;re assigned to one project that should occupy your entire summer (ranging from 10-14 weeks). There is a <em>very short</em> training period (1-2 days) after which you&#8217;re expected to function like a regular consultant &#8211; complete with your own workstream and deliverables.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll have several &#8220;managers&#8221; &#8211; someone junior (such as an early analyst or early associate) as well as the standard team leader/engagement manager. There will be an endless stream of social events &#8211; designed to help you network with the rest of the office and the fellow &#8220;<a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/26/management-consulting-lingo-words-and-phrases-that-applicants-and-interviewees-should-read-and-know/">summers</a>&#8220;.</p>
<h3><strong>How to ensure a return/full-time offer</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>Do your work well</strong>. This is an absolute must. Doing your work well comes down to three things: <strong>#1</strong>, understanding directions and clarifying when you don&#8217;t; <strong>#2</strong>, checking and double-checking and triple-checking your work; <strong>#3</strong>, expressing your opinions <strong>often</strong>. Participation is critical to a consultant&#8217;s job, and if you don&#8217;t speak up, you won&#8217;t move up
<li><strong>Network, network, network</strong>. The more senior consultants that you meet at the firm, the better your chances of receiving a fulltime offer. Strike up conversations based on shared backgrounds, career goals, personal hobbies, whatever!
<li><strong>Build a strong relationship with your team leader/engagement manager</strong>. They have the biggest influence on your return offer prospects. Create one-on-one time with your manager &#8211; setup weekly coffee times to discuss your work, get advice about the job, and so forth
<li><strong>Ask for continual feedback</strong>. This is a great way to not only improve your business skills, but to build rapport with your colleagues and managers
<li><strong>Impress the lead partners</strong>. There are usually several partners who are closely involved with your project and client. Through the summer, you&#8217;ll have opportunities to get in front of them &#8211; whether that&#8217;s presenting a small piece of your work, or chiming in during brainstorming and team sessions. Capture these opportunities &#8211; the sooner they know your name and the more times that you impress them, the better your chances of landing that valuable offer
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