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		<title>How to network at management consulting company presentations and information sessions</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I summarized the management consultants recruiting process in this post. This is the beginning of my deep-dives on each piece of that recruiting process and will be focused on the “execution specifics” &#8211; showing you exactly how to master the recruiting process. The overview: Far more common if you’re currently in school (undergraduate, MBA) where consulting firms ranging from BostonConsulting Group to Mercer HR to Deloitte will swarm campuses, giving presentations and holding [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><img src="http://www.managementconsulted.com/images/presentation.jpg" alt="Tips on networking at management consulting presentations and information sessions" align="left" />I summarized the <span class="il">management</span> consultants recruiting process <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/24/overview-of-the-management-consulting-recruiting-process-from-information-sessions-to-interviews-to-negotiating-the-offer/" target="_blank">in this post</a>.</p>
<p>This is the beginning of my deep-dives on each piece of that recruiting process <span class="il">and</span> will be focused on the “execution specifics” &#8211; showing you exactly <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/get-a-job-offer-now/" target="_blank"><span class="il">how</span> <span class="il">to</span> master the recruiting process</a>.</p>
<h3><strong>The overview:</strong></h3>
<p>Far more common if you’re currently in school (undergraduate, MBA) where <span class="il">consulting</span> firms ranging from Boston<span class="il">Consulting</span> Group <span class="il">to</span> Mercer HR <span class="il">to</span> Deloitte will swarm campuses, giving <span class="il">presentations</span> <span class="il">and</span> holding social mixers in an effort <span class="il">to</span> publicize their firm <span class="il">and</span> identify “high-potential” candidates. Handling a <span class="il">company</span> presentation is like being the heavy favorite as a nationally ranked, Division 1 team in a game against an unranked, Division 2 team. In other words &#8211; there are 10,000 ways you can mess up, but <strong>very few ways <span class="il">to</span> truly beat expectations</strong>.</p>
<h3><strong>Your goal:</strong></h3>
<p>#1 <span class="il">To</span> make an impression on consultants involved in your recruiting process<br />
#2 <span class="il">To</span> gather valuable <span class="il">information</span> about the <span class="il">company</span>, its culture, <span class="il">and</span> its people<br />
#3 <span class="il">To</span> develop firm contacts that will be sources of advice, interview <span class="il">and</span> case prep, <span class="il">and</span> potential references</p>
<h3><strong><span class="il">How</span> <span class="il">to</span> be prepared:</strong></h3>
<p>Follow my Key Do’s <span class="il">and</span> Key Don’ts from <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/24/overview-of-the-management-consulting-recruiting-process-from-information-sessions-to-interviews-to-negotiating-the-offer/" target="_blank">this post</a>. Dress sharp <span class="il">and</span> <strong>avoid mingling with friends <span class="il">and</span> prior associates</strong>. That’s 80% of the work.</p>
<h3><strong>Who are the important players:</strong></h3>
<p>The consultants &#8211; focus on <strong>getting <span class="il">to</span> know the consultants</strong>, not the recruiters. While recruiters are helpful when you have questions about firm particulars, they play a limited role in the decision-making process when deciding who receives interviews <span class="il">and</span> offers.</p>
<p>If this is a university <span class="il">information</span> session, look for consultants from the same university <span class="il">and</span>/or from nearby offices. These are good indicators of their involvement, <span class="il">and</span> resulting influence, on the your university’s recruiting process<span class="il">and</span> applicant pool.</p>
<p>If you’re <span class="il">at</span> a UC-Berkeley campus mixer <span class="il">and</span> find yourself speaking with a consultant from the Chicago office who graduated UPenn, you can bet they probably won’t be heavily involved with your application come decision-time</p>
<p>This may seem too prescriptive for some, but avoid spending too much time with the most senior/white-haired consultants in the room. Most likely they are partner-level, <span class="il">and</span> they come into contact with so many potential applicants that it’s hard <span class="il">to</span> separate yourself from the pack unless you’re in an intimate setting or it’s a very long<span class="il">information</span> session <span class="il">and</span> they’re not swarmed with other applicants</p>
<h3><strong>Exactly what <span class="il">to</span> do <span class="il">at</span> the <span class="il">information</span> session:</strong></h3>
<p>Meet <span class="il">at</span> least 4-5 consultants. Follow my above guidelines <span class="il">to</span> choose whom.</p>
<p>When speaking with a consultant,</p>
<p>#1 Introduce yourself with your <strong>FULL NAME</strong>. This is the most important, as you want them <span class="il">to</span> remember your name when they’re screening resumes<br />
#2 Ask several interesting, open-ended questions<br />
#3 Stay for no longer than 10 minutes, unless you have particularly good rapport<br />
#4 Shake hands <span class="il">at</span> the end, <span class="il">and</span> <strong>ask for a business card</strong>. No exceptions.</p>
<h3><strong>What questions you should ask:</strong></h3>
<p>Have solid, open-ended questions prepared. It’s ok <span class="il">to</span> ask the same questions of different groups. Good ones include:<br />
-What was your background before working <span class="il">at</span> Boston <span class="il">Consulting</span> Group?<br />
-What’s been your most challenging project since joining Bain?<br />
-Have you noticed any significant changes affecting McKinsey since the economy started struggling?</p>
<p>The “quality bar” for these questions is lower than for <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/18/top-10-interview-tips-for-management-consulting-interviews/" target="_blank">post-interview questions</a>, because there are idiots <span class="il">at</span> <span class="il">company</span><span class="il">presentations</span> who ask all sorts of silly/inane/time-occupying questions</p>
<h3><strong>What you should do after the session’s over:</strong></h3>
<p>You now have 4-5 business cards. <strong>FOLLOW-UP THE NEXT DAY</strong>. It’s like dating &#8211; email them too soon, <span class="il">and</span> they’ll be a little surprised. Take too long <span class="il">to</span> email them, <span class="il">and</span> they’ll forget.</p>
<p>Your email should,</p>
<p>-thank them for their time<br />
-mention one or two topics you discussed with the consultant <span class="il">at</span> the firm event<br />
-if you have a burning question, ask them. Otherwise, simply say “I hope <span class="il">to</span> stay in touch with you during the recruiting process” <span class="il">and</span> follow-up with them later if you have news <span class="il">to</span> share (for instance, you were selected for an interview, you received an offer, etc)<br />
-include fullname in the signature</p>
<h3><strong>What are the benefits <span class="il">to</span> you:</strong></h3>
<p>#1 You’ve made a positive impression on several consultants who influence the resume screen <span class="il">and</span> interview process<br />
#2 Through your questions, you’ve learned valuable lessons about the <span class="il">company</span>, its employees, <span class="il">and</span> the <span class="il">management</span><span class="il">consulting</span> business. <strong>It’s ok <span class="il">to</span> back out now if you realize <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/11/management-consulting-and-the-consulting-industry-101/" target="_blank"><span class="il">consulting</span> is not for you</a></strong><br />
#3 You’ve begun building relationships with firm employees &#8211; which will be helpful should you have specific questions that recruiters can’t address; further, the majority are willing <span class="il">to</span> help you prep for interviews <span class="il">and</span> serve as unofficial mentors/guides through the recruiting process. Take advantage of this.</p>
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		<title>Management consulting &#8220;lingo&#8221; &#8211; words and phrases that applicants and interviewees should know</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People make fun of consultants constantly for their lingo. Whether justified or not (I will restrain from turning this blog into too much of a soapbox), it&#8217;s important for anyone interested in the industry to understand SOME of the terms (because as an applicant/interviewee, the last thing you want to happen is for you to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><img src="http://www.managementconsulted.com/images/dictionary.png" alt="" align="left" />People make fun of consultants constantly for their lingo. Whether justified or not <em>(I will restrain from turning this blog into too much of a soapbox)</em>, it&#8217;s important for <strong>anyone interested in the industry to understand SOME of the terms</strong> (because as an applicant/interviewee, the last thing you want to happen is for you to mention how much you love consulting and for the interviewer to ask you what being &#8220;on the beach&#8221; means)</p>
<p>As good coders code and great coders reuse, I came across an excellent post from a fellow blogger, <a href="http://bnjammin.blogspot.com/">Benjamin Tseng</a> (who currently works at a Big 3). It&#8217;s reproduced in near entirety below (see <a href="http://bnjammin.blogspot.com/2007/11/consultant-dictionary.html">original post</a>), with two tweaks:</p>
<p>#1 I&#8217;ve split the terms between those that are &#8220;<strong>good-to-know</strong>&#8221; for potential applicants (with my rationale in yellow boxes) and the rest, which are useful only &#8220;if-you-have-too-much-time-on-your-hands&#8221;</p>
<p>#2 I&#8217;ve added links if there are any terms/concepts that relate to previously written posts</p>
<p class="note">As an interesting aside, I once assumed that while consulting lingo existed at every firm, each firm had unique phrases for many of the concept. Thus after reviewing the terms below, I automatically thought Ben was a fellow McKinsey consultant. This was not the case, and it goes to show the degree of commonality in day-to-day that <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/12/recruiting-decisions-what-is-the-difference-between-global-management-consulting-firms-and-boutique-consulting-firms/">you will encounter regardless of firm</a>. Remember that, <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/11/management-consulting-and-the-consulting-industry-101/">prospective consultants</a>!</p>
<h3><strong>The &#8220;good-to-know&#8221;:</strong></h3>
<p><strong>boil the ocean</strong>: to embark on an apparently impossible, wasteful or fruitless task, usually preceded by an exhortation not to, as in: &#8220;Let&#8217;s not boil the ocean here, an 80/20 should be enough&#8221;; this term suggests that the amount of effort to be expended is not worth the potential payoff</p>
<p class="alert">Interviewers may bring this up to suggest that you reduce/focus your analyses &#8211; take hint that you&#8217;re either thinking about way too many things, or thinking way too broadly about the problem at hand</p>
<p><strong>development opportunity</strong>: a weakness, flaw or shortcoming that should be rectified, usually by the subsequent suggestion</p>
<p class="alert">Pay close attention when interviewers/recruiters/anyone mentions this phrase and work to correct the problem (eg, &#8220;I think one development opportunity for you is to develop more succinct responses to questions about past work experience&#8221;)</p>
<p><strong>directionally correct</strong>: essentially wrong</p>
<p class="alert">Don&#8217;t feel encouraged. You&#8217;ve got a long way to go in getting the right answer</p>
<p><strong>on the beach</strong> <em>(term not included in Ben&#8217;s post but added here)</em>: a consultant with no dedicated project(s). being &#8220;on the beach&#8221; rarely indicates free time (much less beach time); rather, being &#8220;on the beach&#8221; will indicate that for an undetermined period, you will worry constantly about your next long-term project while you&#8217;re shuttled from one short-term assignment to the next</p>
<p class="alert">Just know what it means. Integrate into comments casually if you want brownie points (eg, &#8220;I&#8217;ve heard from consulting friends that many have been <em>on the beach</em> recently&#8221;)</p>
<p><strong>view from 30,000 feet</strong>: a very high-level, preliminary or cursory look at a particular situation, often used to suggest that pertinent details are inappropriately glossed over; however, one never speaks of the view from, say five or six feet, which might be more appropriate given the average height of a human being</p>
<p class="alert">Depending on context, interviewer either a) doesn&#8217;t have additional details, b) wants you to provide additional details, or c) wants you to provide a summary/high-level answer</p>
<h3><strong>The &#8220;if-you-have-too-much-time-on-your-hands&#8221;:</strong></h3>
<p><strong>at the end of the day</strong>: a phrase used to attempt summarization, introduce an air of finality and perhaps close off certain avenues of discussion; since most consultants&#8217; days <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/15/day-in-the-life-of-a-management-consultant-client-version/">do not end with the setting of the sun</a>, at the end of the day most of them are still working</p>
<p><strong>bandwidth</strong>: capacity, free time, ability to do (additional) work; generally used to indicate that speaker cannot or would not prefer to do additional work, as in: &#8220;I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll have any bandwidth this Friday&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>buckets</strong>: categories; this is the extent of this word&#8217;s definition, so it remains a mystery why people choose to employ the former term; also used as a transitive verb to mean &#8220;categorize&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>buttoned-up</strong>: to indicate that a particular piece of work or analysis is <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/19/top-10-resume-tips-for-management-consulting-resumes/">comprehensive, accurate and capable of withstanding close scrutiny</a>; this is an example of opposite terms with identical meanings</p>
<p><strong>buttoned-down</strong>: see buttoned-up</p>
<p><strong>buy-in</strong>: agreement, support; it is unclear why &#8220;buy-in&#8221; has come to supplant these terms, as no actual purchasing occurs</p>
<p><strong>circle back</strong>: to follow up with indicated individuals at a later point in time, usually to review progress on the current topic of discussion; this phrase is somewhat redundant, as it is impossible to trace a circle that does not connect back with itself</p>
<p><strong>crisp</strong>: an adjective indicating that the referenced work or analysis is thorough and complete, perhaps by gastronomical allusion to food that is fully prepared; it is duly noted that crisp objects, while ostensibly finished, are also far more brittle and prone to shattering</p>
<p><strong>granular</strong>: a detailed level of abstraction; often used in the context of increasing the fineness of the analysis, as in: &#8220;We need to get more granular here&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>hands</strong>: often prefaced with &#8220;client,&#8221; indicates the interpersonal skills of an individual in relation to a particular group of people, as in, &#8220;That manager sure has <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/15/day-in-the-life-of-a-management-consultant-client-version/">great client hands</a>&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>hard stop</strong>: used to indicate that after the time indicated, the listeners are on their own, because the person stating that they have a hard stop sure isn&#8217;t going to be around to help after then</p>
<p><strong>hope you&#8217;re doing well</strong>: a generally well-intended but insincere interpolation used at the beginning of most voicemails to replace the standard pleasantries that would be present in verbal communications; use of this phrase does not indicate actual interest in the well-being of the recipient; also found with alarming frequency in electronic mail</p>
<p><strong>key</strong>: critical, essential, required, important, central; the key analysis is generally the linchpin; often used as a noun, and with such frequency that its significance has been diluted, since everything is now &#8220;key&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>let me play this back</strong>: said when the listener wants to refract and color the conversation through his or her own perspective, under the pretense of reviewing the transcript of what&#8217;s been said; in this manner the listener can pretend he or she is a tape recorder</p>
<p><strong>low-hanging fruit</strong>: the initial opportunities, areas of exploration, etc. that are easiest to cover; intended to evoke visual imagery of fruit-laden trees, suggesting that much remains beyond the lowest boughs; syn. quick win</p>
<p><strong>provide color</strong>: a directive that translates roughly to &#8220;This is perhaps the most boring thing I have ever read, with the possible exception of certain lengthier legal disclaimers, and even then it&#8217;s pretty close&#8221;; this bit of jargon is nevertheless somewhat of an advance, since, back in the early days of consulting, people were encouraged to provide black and white</p>
<p><strong>push back</strong> (verb form) or <strong>pushback </strong>(noun): formerly the sole domain of airplanes leaving their gates, this term is now used to indicate resistance and/or disagreement, without actually using those terms; this phrase attempts to avoid any negative connotations of controversy</p>
<p><strong>quick question</strong>: the answer will be anything but; bizarre since the adjective &#8220;quick&#8221; is intended, by implication, to be transferred to the answer to said question and does not necessarily have any bearing on the length of the question</p>
<p><strong>rock star</strong>: an individual whose performance in a given area or success at specific endeavors is highly impressive, unique and/or admirable; this appellation is generally used sparingly; although the term is sometimes used frivolously to express purportedly extreme gratitude, as in: &#8220;Thanks for picking up my mail for me, you&#8217;re a rock star&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>sea change</strong>: in between lake change and ocean change</p>
<p><strong>sniff test</strong>: as in evaluating food for rancidity, this term is used when gauging the viability or reasonableness of a particular analysis; var. smell test</p>
<p><strong>space</strong>: a market, arena, field of endeavor, or general area, not to be confused with the area beyond Earth&#8217;s atmosphere; use of this term usually adds nothing in the way of descriptive value, as in &#8220;I don&#8217;t think there will be many opportunities in the technology space&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>straw man</strong>: a humanoid comprised entirely of the dried above-ground stalks of any of a variety of grasses; also, a construct presented purely for the sake of argument, with the implication that it is not designed to withstand repeated attacks</p>
<p><strong>take the lead on</strong>: a clever phrase often used by more experienced consultants when they wish to delegate a menial task, as in: &#8220;Why don&#8217;t you take the lead on putting together this document,&#8221; which may translate to, &#8220;I&#8217;m lazy and probably not smart or energetic enough to work on this, so go do it&#8221;; often appears in utterly irrelevant settings, as in, &#8220;Why don&#8217;t you take the lead on making dinner reservations for the team,&#8221; a manifestly silly request, since one is asked to &#8220;take the lead on&#8221; something which doesn&#8217;t require leadership of anyone and on which they will certainly be working solo</p>
<p><strong>takeaway</strong>: in other settings a British term referring to carry-out food, here this word has been transmogrified to indicate the salient point that should be retained upon the conclusion of the discussion, often prefaced with key</p>
<p><strong>to be transparent</strong>: in indication that what follows will be particularly revelatory, although it often is not especially so; the troubling implication of this usage is that the speaker has heretofore been opaque</p>
<p><strong>value-add</strong>: quite simply, that value is added, mashed into a hyphenated noun form</p>
<p><strong>wordsmith</strong>: to make trivial or generally unnecessary edits to text that may only subtly change the meaning, if at all; incorrectly implies that one is a craftsman on the order of a blacksmith or goldsmith; sadly, wordsmithing rarely involves the deletion of jargon</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there are many more &#8211; feel free to leave comments below!</p>
<p>Thanks for reading! For more background info and if you&#8217;re just starting to read my blog, <strong>here are some recommended posts:</strong> <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/11/management-consulting-and-the-consulting-industry-101">Management Consulting and the Consulting Industry 101</a>; <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/16/question-of-the-day-management-consulting-versus-investment-banking">Investment Banking vs Management Consulting</a>; <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/15/day-in-the-life-of-a-management-consultant-client-version">Day in the life of a Management Consultant</a></p>
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		<title>Overview of the management consulting recruiting process &#8211; from information sessions to interviews to negotiating the offer</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is post #1 of my series on recruiting. Below, I&#8217;ll touch upon the main components of the consulting job search and what I believe are the key do&#8217;s and key don&#8217;ts. Feel free to post comments below or email me with any questions and followups. I want to thank my readers for making these [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>This is post #1 of my series on recruiting. Below, I&#8217;ll touch upon the main components of the consulting job search and what I believe are the <strong>key do&#8217;s and key don&#8217;ts</strong>. Feel free to post comments below or <a href="mailto:kevin@managementconsulted.com">email me</a> with any questions and followups. I want to thank my readers for making these first 2 weeks of blogging a very interesting time &#8211; blogging is a <strong>2-way street where the writer learns as much as the readers.</strong> </p>
<p class="note">I&#8217;ve also lined up my first &#8220;personalized consultations&#8221; (for one college student preparing for summer internships and one recent grad interested in switching industries) and will be posting updates on how these sessions go in the coming weeks</p>
<p>Now, on to RECRUITING. The key components are:</p>
<p class="alert">Note that each of these sections is worth a long post alone (similar to my first post, <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/11/management-consulting-and-the-consulting-industry-101/">Management Consulting and the Consulting Industry 101</a>). This is a Cliff Notes version for now</p>
<h3><strong>#1 Company presentations/mixers/information sessions</strong></h3>
<p>Far more common if you&#8217;re currently in school (undergraduate, MBA) where consulting firms ranging from Boston Consulting Group to Mercer HR to Kurt Salmon will swarm campuses, giving presentations, holding social mixers, etc in an effort to publicize their firm and identify &#8220;high-potential&#8221; candidates. Handling a company presentation is like, as a quick sports analogy, being the heavy favorite as a nationally ranked, Division 1 team in a game against an unranked, Division 2 team. In other words &#8211; <strong>there are 10,000 ways you can mess up, but very few ways to truly beat expectations.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Key Dos:</strong><br />
-dress sharp (refer to my <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/top-10-interview-tips/">Interview Tips page</a>, tip #2)<br />
-meet at least 3-4 consultants/recruiters present, ask for their business card, and FOLLOW-UP to ask for advice/interview tips</p>
<p><strong>Key Don&#8217;ts:</strong><br />
-spend the entire time talking to your friends<br />
-spend the entire time by the snack bar<br />
-hand your resume to recruiters or consultants unless SPECIFICALLY ASKED<br />
-ask 50 questions &#8211; people remember the ANNOYING APPLICANTS</p>
<h3><strong>#2 Application &#8211; resume + cover letter</strong></h3>
<p>This is where the wheat begins to be separated from the chaff. At this point, you&#8217;ve decided <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/16/question-of-the-day-management-consulting-versus-investment-banking/">management consulting is a potential career path for you</a>. You may not be 100% sold over other options (eg banking, accounting, corporate, etc) but are interested enough to invest significant time. There are many variations of how this process works: if you&#8217;re currently enrolled in school, there are typically resume submission periods followed by a selection process to determine who receives interviews. If you&#8217;re not in school (or your target firms do not recruit at your school), it typically means submitting your resume through internal friends, HR and recruiting contacts, or even in-person at job/career fairs and waiting indefinitely to hear back. Either way, a top notch resume will <strong>ALWAYS STAND OUT</strong>. Cover letters, on the other hand, present <strong>significantly more room for error and have limited upside</strong>.</p>
<p><strong>Key Dos:</strong><br />
-build a consulting-ready resume (refer to my <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/top-10-resume-tips/">Resume Tips page</a>)<br />
-make sure you have the RIGHT FIRM, ADDRESS, ETC on your cover letter<br />
-follow-up with recruiters if you haven&#8217;t received confirmation upon submission<br />
-let contacts within firms know that you have applied &#8211; they can send a positive recommendation to recruiters if they are inclined to do so</p>
<p><strong>Key Don&#8217;ts:</strong><br />
-send more than 1 email asking about the status of your application<br />
-have more than 1 page for either your cover letter or your resume<br />
-send additional materials (eg, portfolio work, letters of reference) unless SPECIFICALLY ASKED</p>
<p class="alert">At some point you may need to narrow your scope &#8211; I recommend submitting resumes/cover letters to as many firms as possible, but if you&#8217;re lucky enough to receive tens of interviews you should really consider which firms are best for you so you can <strong>focus on the ones that matter</strong>. This post on <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/12/recruiting-decisions-what-is-the-difference-between-global-management-consulting-firms-and-boutique-consulting-firms/">global management consulting firms versus boutique firms</a> may help</p>
<h3><strong>#3 Interview (phone)</strong></h3>
<p>Self-explanatory. Phone interviews are usually fit-oriented, and if done are either because #1, the firm doesn&#8217;t have enough resources to immediately hold in-person interviews or #2, you&#8217;re a &#8220;borderline case&#8221; and they need additional information about you and your background to decide. The approach with phone interviews should be to <strong>focus on answer quality</strong>, and less on building interviewer rapport given the difficulties of doing that over the phone. Cover the bases below and you&#8217;ll do fine.</p>
<p class="note">Note that not all consulting firms will have phone interviews. Some may skip directly to in-person interviews. Some may have several phone interviews before any in-person meetings</p>
<p><strong>Key Dos:</strong><br />
-place the call in a <strong>QUIET AREA WITH GOOD RECEPTION</strong>, preferably a land-line<br />
-ask for time if you need to collect your thoughts &#8211; but don&#8217;t take longer than 30 seconds<br />
-have a notepad handy for technical questions<br />
-ask for their email address to send a THANK YOU NOTE/FOLLOW-UP EMAIL</p>
<p><strong>Key Don&#8217;ts:</strong><br />
-conduct the phone interview while on a train from Lumsford, New Mexico to El Paso, Texas<br />
-be too casual &#8211; its easier to make this mistake on the phone &#8211; remember that it is a JOB INTERVIEW. No excessive laughing. Keep discussion of personal matters to a bare minimum unless directly asked</p>
<h3><strong>#4 Interview (in-person)</strong></h3>
<p>Also self-explanatory. If you&#8217;ve made it here, congratulations! They clearly think highly of what you&#8217;ve accomplished and now want to know you as a person &#8211; <strong>your communication skills, your on-the-spot thinking and analytical abilities, your presence and personality</strong>. This is truly the most difficult part, as I can guarantee that at this point you&#8217;re up against some very qualified candidates. To stand out, the keys in management consulting interviews are to really <strong>ACE THE CASE</strong><strong></strong>, have well-rehearsed but <strong>NATURAL RESPONSES to non-case questions</strong>, and be <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/17/must-read-books-and-periodicals-for-management-consultants/">well-informed about current business news</a>. Sounds simple, but takes many many many hours of solid preparation to make this happen.</p>
<p class="alert">There are two components to interviews (both phone and in-person) &#8211; the case study, and the fit/behavioral questions. I will dedicate separate posts to each, but the important thing to know is that the <strong>case study accounts for at least 50% (and usually more) of your final &#8220;score&#8221;</strong> in determining whether you get an offer</p>
<p><strong>Key Dos:</strong><br />
-everything I wrote on my <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/top-10-interview-tips/">Interview Tips page</a></p>
<p><strong>Key Don&#8217;ts:</strong><br />
-forgetting everything I wrote on my <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/top-10-interview-tips/">Interview Tips page</a></p>
<h3><strong>#5 The Waiting Period</strong></h3>
<p>Like #1 Company Presentations, there&#8217;s not much upside but you can do a lot to ruin your prospects. Be patient and focus on other priorities &#8211; and NEVER STOP LOOKING FOR OTHER JOBS.</p>
<p><strong>Key Dos:</strong><br />
-wait patiently and if you have upcoming interviews, prepare for those<br />
-if you have no response after 1 week of the &#8220;final interview&#8221;, send an email to the recruiter asking <strong>if they need anything more from you regarding your application</strong>; CC one or two consultants you interviewed with or talked to extensively in the process</p>
<p><strong>Key Don&#8217;ts:</strong><br />
-assume you have an offer and stop the job search process<br />
-send an email a day to recruiters/consultants at the firm inquiring about your status</p>
<h3><strong>#6 The Offer!</strong></h3>
<p>CONGRATULATIONS! You&#8217;ve done it. It&#8217;s extremely difficult to receive offers from management consulting firms &#8211; their <strong>scale is simply an order of magnitude smaller than financial service firms</strong> (as an example, McKinsey&#8217;s New York office, one of their largest, occupies about 10-15 floors of one skyscraper. Goldman Sachs in New York has 3 skyscrapers all to itself). Now is time for thorough <strong>due diligence and diplomatic negotiation</strong> if necessary regarding final terms, start date, etc. Again, congratulations on a job well-done and welcome to the challenging and wonderful world of strategy and management consulting.</p>
<p><strong>Key Dos:</strong><br />
-thank them nicely for the offer<br />
-send an email to firm contacts that you&#8217;ve met through the application process and thank them/notify them as well. Setup time to discuss the offer and ask questions of them<br />
-gather as much information as you can from current and former employees, friends, books, etc<br />
-ask your primary HR contact with any &#8220;administrative questions&#8221; eg salary, benefits, etc</p>
<p><strong>Key Don&#8217;ts:</strong><br />
-accept the offer immediately unless you are 100% sure that&#8217;s the job for you<br />
-ask non-HR contacts any &#8220;administrative questions&#8221; unless you know them well<br />
-immediately negotiate details of your offer without fully informing yourself first. And as a general rule of thumb, don&#8217;t negotiate anything that won&#8217;t SIGNIFICANTLY change your decision or satisfaction in the job</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is an important question for prospective applicants (in particular, undergrad/MBA students) looking for summer internships and fulltime jobs alike. The decision was easier for me than for most people. The cons of investment banking &#8211; the long hours, the repetitive and unengaging nature of the work, the lack of non-finance exit opportunities &#8211; mattered [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><img src="http://www.managementconsulted.com/images/salary.jpg" align="right" alt="Important differences between management consulting and investment banking">This is an important question for prospective applicants (in particular, undergrad/MBA students) looking for summer internships and fulltime jobs alike.</p>
<p>The decision was easier for me than for most people. The cons of investment banking &#8211; <strong>the long hours, the repetitive and unengaging nature of the work, the lack of non-finance exit opportunities</strong> &#8211; mattered far more to me than a 6-figure salary. I seriously considered sales &#038; trading (in fact, I spent a summer at Credit Suisse First Boston in NY), and was tempted to continue in that line of work post-graduation.</p>
<p>Instead of defining the basic characteristics of each job (there are plenty of resources out there for that, including the <a href="http://www.vault.com">Vault</a> and <a href="http://www.wetfeet.com">Wetfeet Guides</a>), I will address a <strong>laundry list of defining differences </strong>between the two professions.</p>
<p class="alert">Let me caveat by saying THESE ARE NOT YOUR ONLY OPTIONS. People get carried away into thinking that&#8217;s all there is.</p>
<h3>#1 <strong>SALARY</strong></h3>
<p>This is the biggest superficial difference. That&#8217;s not to imply that salary doesn&#8217;t matter. Banking salaries average <strong>50-100% higher</strong> than consulting salaries, with the difference increasingly significant as your seniority increases. Consulting compensates with <strong>perks that banking does not offer</strong> &#8211; from better travel allowances to more generous health and retirement packages.</p>
<p>Consultants always like to say this:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I know investment bankers make more money. But from a cashflow perspective, it&#8217;s exactly the same!&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>This simply means that consultants and bankers make comparable base salaries, and at the end of the year, bankers are awarded a bonus which can comprise more than 50% of their total annual compensation. Cashflow or not, <strong>the extra money is substantial and a defining driver of why many people do investment banking</strong>. This is also a difficult issue for consulting firms with respect to employee retention. In my time at McKinsey, easily half the people who left the firm went into the financial world (from hedge funds to PE), and salary was undoubtedly a <strong>major factor in the decision.</strong></p>
<p class="alert">My advice is this &#8211; if after considering all 5 factors I&#8217;ve listed here, you still think the pay difference (for 1st yr analysts, averaging between $30-60K/year) would mean a substantial difference in your personal and professional job satisfaction, <strong>choose banking</strong>.</p>
<p><em>Further reading:</em> <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2009/01/08/the-truth-behind-consulting-salaries-from-analyst-thru-partner/">Consulting salaries from analyst to partner</a></p>
<h3>#2 <strong>LIFESTYLE</strong></h3>
<p>The key differences here are:</p>
<p>-<strong>Hours</strong>. Bankers work brutal hours, no surprise. They can average 14-16 hours/day but it can get <strong>FAR WORSE</strong>. </p>
<p class="note">My roommates in New York (both investment bankers at Goldman Sachs) would sometimes go several weeks before we&#8217;d even exchange a word. Which meant not only were they getting in after I went to sleep (around 2am), but going back to the office before I woke up (around 7am).</p>
<p>Your <strong>second year as an investment banker gets better</strong> &#8211; in the 10-14 hours/day range but also with unpredictably tough periods.</p>
<p>Consultants average 12 hours/day, with the typical variations depending on client, team goals, etc</p>
<p>-<strong>Travel</strong>. Bankers do some for roadshows, due diligence, etc but spend 90% of their time in one office until you&#8217;re partner-level (this is investment banking; you can expect more travel in private equity and investment management). Consultants &#8211; depending on firm &#8211; travel anywhere from 25-75% of their time. At the Big 3 (Bain, Boston Consulting Group, McKinsey), you can expect travel 50-75% of the time. I&#8217;ve heard of boutiques </p>
<p>-<strong>Relationship with coworkers, managers, and firm</strong>. This is less discussed but equally important. Consulting firms have a very <strong>collegial atmosphere</strong>, where the focus is on getting the work done but also<strong> ensuring your professional success</strong>. This attitude permeates all interactions. Managers rarely yell, coworkers try to help each other out whenever possible, and companies are organized to provide consultants support with training, expertise, etc. Finally, networking is important at consulting firms, and social events are focused on helping consultants build contacts and relationships throughout the firm.</p>
<p>Investment banks, on the other hand, have a more competitive, hierarchical setup. You can expect more tense relationships with your bosses, you&#8217;ll probably be yelled at from time to time for mistakes, and coworkers are much less willing to help each other out <em>(they&#8217;ve got enough on their plates, and your success means theres more competition for the biggest bonuses)</em>. In addition, you&#8217;ll have limited exposure across the company to other groups, departments, etc &#8211; less ability to network across the company.</p>
<p><em>Further reading:</em> <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/23/top-5-myths-about-travel-as-a-management-consultant/">Consulting travel</a>; <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/15/day-in-the-life-of-a-management-consultant-client-version/">Day in the life of a consultant</a></p>
<h3>#3 <strong>SKILL DEVELOPMENT</strong></h3>
<p>Call me biased, but I received the <strong>best years of business training possible in my time at McKinsey</strong>. Thorough and at times intense exposure to textbook business principles and practices. In addition, the project team model leads to mentorship opportunities with managers, partners, and coworkers. Finally, you have constant client interaction which develops &#8220;client skills&#8221; &#8211; from managing client teams to running meetings to learning how to navigate different corporate environments.</p>
<p>That being said, here&#8217;s a quick list of what you can expect to learn in both fields:</p>
<p class="alert">By &#8220;hard skills&#8221;, I mostly mean software (ie Microsoft Office Suite), analytics (ie financial valuation). By &#8220;soft skills&#8221;, I mean the interpersonal, qualitative interactions that you have with coworkers, the broader firm, clients, etc</p>
<p><strong>CONSULTING</strong></p>
<p><em>Hard skills:</em><br />
1) Microsoft Powerpoint &#8211; you will (and have to) become a master at this, and will eventually have the ability to produce presentations quickly, concisely, and meaningfully<br />
2) Microsoft Excel &#8211; less exposure than investment banking. Still, &#8220;modeling&#8221; is a meaningful component of a consultant&#8217;s work, and something every consultant is expected to have significant exposure to. Note -firmsodeling&#8221; done in case work may not be directly comparable to the financial modeling more common at investment banks<br />
3) Business knowledge &#8211; typically broad exposure across different topics like strategy, operations, organization and several areas where you&#8217;ll have expertise. This expertise may be as broad as &#8220;operations turnaround&#8221; and as specific as &#8220;benchmarking for insurance companies&#8221;.</p>
<p><em>Soft skills:</em><br />
1) Client interaction (explained above)<br />
2) Heavy team interaction<br />
3) Presentation skills &#8211; this is a cornerstone of consulting work. After all, findings don&#8217;t mean anything if you can&#8217;t convince the client to believe in and adopt them<br />
4) Project/workflow planning and execution &#8211; this is subtle but important. Much of the time at investment banks, you are given incremental work &#8211; eg, add these updated numbers to the model, bind these presentations, insert a graph on chart 11. Consulting is focused on you OWNING a piece of the entire project, setting your own deliverables and timeline, and executing against that framework. This helps you develop the ability to be &#8220;standalone&#8221; in consulting lingo.</p>
<p><strong>INVESTMENT BANKING</strong></p>
<p><em>Hard skills:</em><br />
1) Microsoft Excel &#8211; clearly you will become a master at this, and is a mandatory for success. You&#8217;ll know the ins-and-outs, every keyboard shortcut known to man (and then some), and so forth<br />
2) Microsoft Powerpoint &#8211; much less exposure here depending on the focus of your work (for instance, more in Corporate Finance, less in Mergers &#038; Acquisitions). Very little experience in building a presentation from scratch.<br />
3) Financial valuation &#8211; self-explanatory. Differs based on group/focus, but at the very least you&#8217;ll understand financial statements inside and out, and have strong knowledge of how companies are financed</p>
<p><em>Soft skills:</em><br />
1) Work endurance &#8211; this is the upside to those 100+ hour weeks, which is the ability to work incredibly long and incredibly hard. Basically, every job you take post investment banking will feel somewhat like a vacation. It&#8217;s a great trait to have<br />
2) Seeing deals get done &#8211; investment bankers have, at times, better access to the leading business leaders of the day. As a junior banker, you may not have direct interaction but will be exposed through countless meetings, conference calls, etc to these people and see how deals are done and groundbreaking changes in business emerge day-to-day.</p>
<p><em>Further reading:</em> <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/consulting-jobs/management-consultant-jobs-5-mistakes/">5 big mistakes that will get you fired</a></p>
<p class="alert">The last 2 points in this post are shorter, because I plan to write separate entries on each of them in the future</p>
<h3>#4 <strong>NETWORKING</strong></h3>
<p>Less discussed but important. Consultants move on to a <strong>vast array of fields</strong> &#8211; from industry to academia, government to non-profit. Investment bankers do so less &#8211; most continue within the financial world. Your professional network and future career opportunities will be <strong>heavily influenced by your colleagues and your firm alumni</strong>.</p>
<p>In addition &#8211; my perspective is that consulting firms (similar to point #2) facilitate more interactions between alumni and current employees as well as future networking between alumni than investment banks. However, bulge-bracket investment banks have a much larger alumni base, and it certainly isn&#8217;t impossible for you to build strong connections provided you are proactive and innovative enough.</p>
<p><em>Further reading:</em> <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/consulting-jobs/how-to-get-a-consulting-job-in-a-tough-economy-notes-from-recruiting-talks/">How to get a consulting job in a tough economy</a>; <a href="http://managementconsulted.com/2008/12/28/the-right-way-to-network-and-gather-information-at-management-consulting-information-sessionsmixerscompany-presentations/">Networking 101</a> </p>
<h3>#5 <strong>EXIT OPPORTUNITIES</strong></h3>
<p><strong>Corollary to point #4</strong>, this is influenced by your firm&#8217;s alumni and also the following:</p>
<p>-the different recruiters/headhunters that reach out to you<br />
-the different paths your &#8220;hiring class&#8221; takes and the knowledge and opportunities you share with each other<br />
-the relationships you&#8217;ve built with more senior colleagues and the doors they can open for you</p>
<p class="alert">When it comes down to it, the conclusion is similar: if you want maximum career flexibility, consulting provides that in spades. If you want maximum career flexibility WITHIN finance (and corporate financial roles), investment banking provides that.</p>
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